i became a born again christian. and then, my spiritual mentor, a guy named bill bright from campus crusade for christ international, sat me down one day, and said "you need to get into post-secondary education." and i said, "bill, i've never gone to college. i don't know what you're talking about." right, right. when i came home and told a couple of my friends that i was going to buy a university, they all said, "are you back on crack or something?" i mean, no one buys a college. and i said, "no, no, i think it can be done." >> smith: today, clifford is part of a movement that is transforming the way we think about higher education in america. he and his investors have turned around a half a dozen colleges that now enroll close to 40,000 students. there are people who would say, look, this guy, michael clifford, he never went to college, he was a musician, he sort of drifted around, he had a born-again experience. do you have the credibility, do you have the bona fides to be determining the future of colleges around the country?